tectactoe
06.27.22 | https://ibb.co/SxHFH15 |
YoYoMancuso
06.27.22 | gonna be some great discussion about this here on Sputnikmusic.com |
Colton
06.27.22 | https://ibb.co/1nqt0cq |
Sinternet
06.27.22 | oh boy this is gonna be a great thread good job |
pjquinones747
06.27.22 | Left and /barely/ on the side of liberty |
JesperL
06.27.22 | been a while since i've done one of these, got auth-left here (very muchly into left and only slightly into auth) |
Colton
06.27.22 | needs more controversial topics to really get the ball rolling |
Zac124
06.27.22 | https://ibb.co/NpNSCY6 |
protokute
06.27.22 | first time doing these tests, and yea it's pretty vague
https://ibb.co/DrnRgJL |
GhandhiLion
06.27.22 | Why are some questions always so vague. |
JesperL
06.27.22 | oh yea 7.81 for me |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | Yeah, definitely flawed. But honestly any political "quiz" that included the full level of nuance and analysis necessary to capture the entire picture would be impossibly complex and take days and thousands of questions to complete lol. Tests like these often reduce multifaceted issues into binary accept/reject impositions, which is obviously very reductive. All that said, my alignment was still relatively on-par with how I'd have self-identified. I thought I'd be more progressive on the social axis, honestly, and maybe *slightly* farther into the Libertarian side, but all in all it's a fair representation I suppose. |
pjquinones747
06.27.22 | I'd post a link to my photo but the link keeps on pasting ridiculously long
I think 6.56 is the number you'd use to put next to my name if i understand it correctly |
nightbringer
06.27.22 | https://ibb.co/wBQh5L6 auth-left |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | even from imgbb ? |
pizzamachine
06.27.22 | Politics is dum |
Pangea
06.27.22 | https://imgur.com/a/anfvfGO
Lib left but only slightly lib |
AlexKzillion
06.27.22 | Auth-left, socially progressive |
pjquinones747
06.27.22 | https://ibb.co/hRh9Q7g |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | Just fyi nightbringer, gonna put you in Auth-Center. I've kind of defined Ā±2.0* as the "cut off" for Centrist v. Leaning, but that's an admittedly arbitrary distinction on my part. If you truly feel it should be more Auth-Left, I can change it. But the classifications above are based solely on the test as written - your personal feeling and self-identification can (and in many cases will) obviously be different. |
nightbringer
06.27.22 | Oh sure, that's fine. |
Colton
06.27.22 | didnāt know Iām a centrist idk really know what that means. but I think far right and far left are both dumb as hell so I guess it makes sense |
Snake.
06.27.22 | hopefully i'll be able to finish this quiz before this list gets shut down |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | Just means that your views are relatively split between the two ideologies (one axis) in question. In the case of a true centrist, you're balanced between both authority and economy. (Social progressivism is considered separately.) I've arbitrarily deemed Ā±2.0 as the cut-off for centrism on a specific axis. No real justification for that number other than it "appears" right via the eyeball test. |
cold
06.27.22 | Lib-Left
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.67&auth=-3.33&prog=4.69 |
Ryus
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-6.00&auth=-2.33&prog=8.44
|
el_newg
06.27.22 | https://ibb.co/tJMST6h
I'm not super political so some questions I'm just like "uhhhhhhh.... unsure" maybe some examples could have helped in the test but anyway ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ |
Cimnele
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-8.67&auth=-1.67&prog=5.31 hmm |
Purpl3Spartan
06.27.22 | Oh no |
SlothcoreSam
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.67&auth=-4.67&prog=8.44 |
cvlts
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=3.67&auth=-4.33&prog=1.25
tends to be where i generally fall in these types of quizzes |
Josh D.
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-6.00&auth=-1.67&prog=5.63 |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | Finally I am not alone š |
zakalwe
06.27.22 | Like all these things the questions are bloody ridiculous. |
Ryus
06.27.22 | yeah the questions always suck but this one is somehow better than the other one |
ArsMoriendi
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-3.00&auth=1.00&prog=6.25
I usually get green quadrant, but weird, this gave me red |
Trebor.
06.27.22 | These quizzes are wild to me, there's always questions like "Do you think poor and homeless people should just die?" or whatever just more nicely worded and it's like how tf does anyone click yes to these and get auth-right and shit |
Calc
06.27.22 | yeah some of these questions are pretty lol but I got auth left |
theBoneyKing
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-6.67&auth=-0.33&prog=7.19
You can figure out where to put me based on that. Fwiw I tend to identify a bit more as auth-left but I got center/slightly lib here. |
budgie
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-7.00&auth=5.00&prog=6.88
jesus christ im a commie š¤·āāļø |
pizzamachine
06.27.22 | Put me down for Antiestablishmentarianism. |
TheSpirit
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-8.33&auth=-3.00&prog=5.94 |
theBoneyKing
06.27.22 | nice one budg I guess I was feeling a bit more bashful today but I am there with you in spirit if not always in practice lol |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | @Boney, just trying to sick to the main quadrants here, so your test would be simply Econ-Left, as the authoritarian axis is nearly centered (Ā±2.0 is my arbitrary cut-off here). More realistically/specifically, your alignment there would probably be something like Social Democracy, or perhaps "Democratic Socialsm" if you erred more on the authoritarian side. Not quite economically left enough to justify communism yet (imo). Though obviously take all of this with a grain of salt. |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | yeah budgie in the State Socialism area fa'sho haha. |
theBoneyKing
06.27.22 | makes sense - I guess being realistic I do value a balance between social liberty and authority so my result reflects that |
WatchItExplode
06.27.22 | Authoritarian 0.67 progressive 2.5 |
budgie
06.27.22 | "your alignment there would probably be something like Social Democracy, or perhaps "Democratic Socialsm" if you erred more on the authoritarian side."
be careful with these terms, the distinction really only exists in pop political journalism but in political texts and historically they're basically interchangeable |
Sevengill
06.27.22 | I'm not sure what words go with this
https://ibb.co/wKwN6dG |
Snake.
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-8.33&auth=-0.67&prog=7.81 |
FR33L0RD
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-3.67&auth=1.33&prog=6.56
High Progressive(6.56)--Left (-3.67)āCenter Authority(1.33)
Fun little survey, nice. |
Snake.
06.27.22 | https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1150147192.7377/st,small,845x845-pad,1000x1000,f8f8f8.jpg
we should drop the traditional compass alignment for this list and use this instead |
JohnnyoftheWell
06.27.22 | https://imgur.com/a/KsT6DTD
not rly what i expected, but close enough. went neutral on q a few leading questions pushing false dichotomies |
AlexKzillion
06.27.22 | ooo my progressive axis was 4.38, forgot to add |
Avagantamos
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-5.00&auth=-3.33&prog=7.50 |
budgie
06.27.22 | johnny and freelord, welcome aboard the commie train i guess š„° |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | "be careful with these terms, the distinction really only exists in pop political journalism but in political texts and historically they're basically interchangeable"
don't disagree, though with modernist context taken into account, it is "generally" understood what is meant by either term and how they're at least perceived to be different. but you're not wrong.
"not rly what i expected, but close enough. went neutral on q a few leading questions pushing false dichotomies"
this is really the biggest issue, aside from lack of overall resolution. there are definitely several questions that are loaded and seem to be implying that there's a morally "correct" answer. but of the many political quizzes I've taken, this one is the *least* lopsided with the most reasonable amount of questions. there are a couple better ones, but they have 200+ questions with much more nuance to the answers, and I was pretty much sure no one here would've bothered if presented with that many questions lol. |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | @Sevengill: pretty much the same as Boney, leaning toward socialism but not quite far enough for full-blown communism. Even split of authority which lends itself to some level of democracy. |
nightbringer
06.27.22 | little lonely where I am. |
Avagantamos
06.27.22 | I'm simply not well enough informed on fiscal policy, so I tended to just go neutral for those questions |
FR33L0RD
06.27.22 | Hahaha, everything fine, social democrats, is close enough for me budgie bro. |
budgie
06.27.22 | yeah same freelord, i definitely dont consider myself a communist lmao |
DavidYowi
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-9.33&auth=-2.00&prog=7.50 |
JohnnyoftheWell
06.27.22 | lmao i'm pretty sure i answered no to the straight-up y/n communism question |
RabbitInTheGround
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-8.67&auth=-2.33&prog=7.50 |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | The thing that bothers me about the communism question is, it's something like "Communism is an ideal that could never work in practice." There are two points of contention there: 1. Is Communism ideal? 2. Would Communism ever work in practice?
I voted Yes, in the sense that it is a utopic wet dream that could never be implemented effectively, not with fucking humans anyway. But one could interpret the question as "No, I do not even think it's an 'ideal' economic system on paper" and would answer No/Disagree here. But then that might imply they're saying "no" to the "It could never work in practice" part.
I'm fairly certain the second part of the question (whether it could ever "work") is the main point, but the question is definitely poorly worded. |
budgie
06.27.22 | i voted neutral on that i think, was assuming theyre going with "state communism" aka stalinist type command economies + fully nationalized industries. if it's the idealistic stateless communism, i mean that sounds just awful |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | See, I automatically assumed the latter. (Since elsewhere I think they tend to delineate the state if the question would necessitate the clarity.) Another obvious pitfall of these types of simplified questions.
Again, this quiz was chosen mainly for its combination of (1) low number of questions and (2) "relatively" unbiased stance. But here are two others that I've found to be quite nice:
https://politicaltests.github.io/12axes/instructions.html
https://www.isidewith.com/
The first one doesn't use a compass but rather measures 12 different political spectrums and makes a judgment based on those. There are two versions - one with 60 questions and one with 288 questions. The one with more questions is obviously more comprehensive, and i noticed it contains some similar questions, but worded slightly differently, or to various levels of specificity, which I think helps a bit with consistency to some extent.
The latter is more specifically US-based, so apologies to my global friends (of which there are many). But it has the benefit of being more contemporaneous and specific than the others, plus the questions have a wider range of potential answers and caveats. |
RunOfTheMill
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.67&auth=0.00&prog=6.88 |
ArsMoriendi
06.27.22 | Someone should aggregate all of these results on a custom chart
someone less lazy than I |
RogueNine
06.27.22 | night, if I'm reading my results correctly I'd be in the same section. |
nightbringer
06.27.22 | yay! *heart emoji* |
Sinternet
06.27.22 | i guess ill post mine because im bored
l/r: -6.67 a/l: -0.33 p/c: 6.56 |
BAT
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.33&auth=1.33&prog=6.25
auth-left? wooops [ohh didnt know what the x axis was labeled as lol, econ-left ganggang] |
Sevengill
06.27.22 | thank you based tectactoe |
Drifter
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-7.33&auth=3.00&prog=8.44
would 7.33 be my number? idk im a lil confused lol |
Drifter
06.27.22 | "Someone should aggregate all of these results on a custom chart"
whatever happened to macman |
RogueNine
06.27.22 | Made some lists, got promoted to staff, stuck around for a year and then poof. |
Drifter
06.27.22 | lameeee he was a wizard |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | @RogueNine - post them results, donāt be shy š
@Drifter - there are three axes that range from +10 to -10. The first two describe economic leaning (right or left wing) and authority leaning (authoritarian or libertarian). Those two are the x and y axes and are visualized by the dot on the chart, and described by a simple title. You would be Auth-Right for example based on -7.33 and 3. The third axis is social, either progressive or conservative. That is hard to visualize in 2d, it would essentially be the z-axis. So thatās the one we just describe with a number. Youād be 8.44, which is heavily socially progressive. (0 is an even split and negative numbers would be more conservative.) |
Drifter
06.27.22 | i think you mean auth left not auth right for me lol i almost had a heartattck |
Egarran
06.27.22 | "Without democracy, a society is nothing."
wat |
ashcrash9
06.27.22 | can't help but feel like macman's the sort of fella to make a ceremonious return eventually for all of like 3 days and then desert again for good |
protokute
06.27.22 | "Do you think gays are a total nature abomination and don't deserve to live?" |
Drifter
06.27.22 | some people would unironically say yes to that tho so its not really a bad question |
WatchItExplode
06.27.22 | Guess I didn't understand the assignment |
budgie
06.27.22 | the big Q
is secularism authoritarian or progressive or BOTH |
Egarran
06.27.22 | https://imgur.com/a/t9VbfXb |
Get Low
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.00&auth=-3.00&prog=6.56
libtard |
budgie
06.27.22 | yesssssss egar on team red |
SlothcoreSam
06.27.22 | I did the 288 question version of the https://politicaltests.github.io/12axes/instructions.html
Turns out I'm Anarcho-syndicalism |
Storm In A Teacup
06.27.22 | Idk how to post pictures but mine was exactly the same as ega except instead of one block north into red i was one block south into green |
Storm In A Teacup
06.27.22 | We are that close and yet ega doesn't even want to talk about car culture with me š¤£ššš |
Egarran
06.27.22 | >yesssssss egar on team red
I didn't wanna post my results but then I saw what company I would be in š
I hope Johnny will like me better now |
Egarran
06.27.22 | >ega doesn't even want to talk about car culture with me
>Idk how to post pictures
Yeah |
Storm In A Teacup
06.27.22 | š |
Storm In A Teacup
06.27.22 | I saw your exactly. |
Egarran
06.27.22 | I feel it was too on the nose |
sr388
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-10.00&auth=-4.00&prog=9.38 |
Ectier
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.33&auth=0.00&prog=8.13
I did this half awake but overall seems right. |
SharkTooth
06.27.22 | please tell me pcm isn't gonna invade this sub next |
budgie
06.27.22 | from what ive seen pcm is a libertarian circlejerk so doesnt seem very compatible w this community |
theBoneyKing
06.27.22 | Ayy Sint, looks like our l/r and a/l are identical |
DANcore
06.27.22 | L/R: 0
Auth/lib: 1
Prog/con: 1.25
And they say thereās no such thing as centrists anymore |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | 'i think you mean auth left not auth right for me lol i almost had a heartattck'
Yep, you are correct haha
@WatchItExplode: You're missing an axis value bb.
'is secularism authoritarian or progressive or BOTH'
More progressive, socially. If anything it's more a libertarian concept than an authoritarian one. But they aren't mutually exclusive, necessarily.
@Storm: Can you gimme the three numbers at least? |
Frost15
06.27.22 | I'll post mine just for the popcorn:
l/r: -1 a/l: -2.33 p/c: -1.87
Still got my red bar down towards con like it should be |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | DAN is a true Centrist. Kind of in awe of that balance, tbh. |
tectactoe
06.27.22 | Lib-Center is not a bad place to be, honestly. And even on the lib side, you're fairly well balanced. Nothing to be ashamed of mate. :) |
budgie
06.27.22 | "More progressive, socially. If anything it's more a libertarian concept than an authoritarian one. "
mua ha ha but tell progressives in north america that you shouldnt be able to wear burkas in public schools and they will call you a nazi |
tyman128
06.27.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-1.00&auth=0.33&prog=4.38 |
TheGreatQ
06.27.22 | L/R: 3
Auth/Lib: 0.33
Prog/Con: -2.81 |
Storm In A Teacup
06.27.22 | @tec, I can
LR -4.67
AL -1.33
Prog Con 4.69 |
Hyperion1001
06.27.22 | didnāt know if the results directly linked so I just uploaded mine here. donāt really know how to interpret it so do with it what you will.
https://imgur.com/a/KlvpkUq |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.28.22 | lr -4.33
al -4.33
pc 8.13
Just happy Iām not in whatever Nazi simping, homophobe defending category budgie is in |
Get Low
06.28.22 | where's the authoritarian right homies at |
Mort.
06.28.22 | left/right: -8.67
auth/lib: 0.33
prog/con: 5.94 |
JohnnyoftheWell
06.28.22 | "Just happy Iām not in whatever Nazi simping, homophobe defending category budgie is in"
get me out of here plz
|
budgie
06.28.22 | obsessed |
Storm In A Teacup
06.28.22 | I didn't understand 5 or 6 questions and hit neutral on those |
deathschool
06.28.22 | Lib left:
Left: -9
Lib: -1.33
Prog: 8.75
Definitely get a little closer to auth left every time I take one of these. |
rockarollacola
06.28.22 | Lib Right
L/R: 5
Auth/Lib: -3
Prog/Con: 5.94 |
rockarollacola
06.28.22 | am i the first econ-right? |
WatchItExplode
06.28.22 | Just put me with night bringer in auth center please |
BaselineOOO
06.28.22 | imo any person under the age of 50 shouldn't be allowed to discuss politics, except maybe me (but then again I am actually 473 years old)
I'm probably authoritarian right realistically in our corrupt world, but in your test, like any innocent soul, I'd be Econ-Left. |
Piglet
06.28.22 | FENCE SITTING SUPREMACY
L/R 1.33
Auth/Lib -0.33
Prog/Con 3.75
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=1.33&auth=-0.33&prog=3.75 |
Colton
06.28.22 | Econ-Left is official pleb tier |
Egarran
06.28.22 | ^Classic centrist deflection |
Mort.
06.28.22 | the only thing people care less about than hearing Colton's views on music is his political views |
someone
06.28.22 | Auth-Left |
someone
06.28.22 | L/R -3.33
A/L 1
P/C 7.19 |
tectactoe
06.28.22 | Updated. Just for everyone's info, in case they didn't see my earlier mention(s) of it - my (admittedly arbitrary) cut-off for centrist/leaning is Ā±2.0, so if any one of your values is within the range of -2 to +2, I considered it "centered". Again, no real basis for this exact range other than...well, it looks relatively centered, and theoretically represents less than 20% lean toward one side, which, in the grand scheme, is quite centrist. |
someone
06.28.22 | you've put me in a wrong entry |
tectactoe
06.28.22 | "mua ha ha but tell progressives in north america that you shouldnt be able to wear burkas in public schools and they will call you a nazi"
It, like everything political, is a tricky, nuanced, and highly interpretive issue. My personal stance is that students should be able to exhibit freedom of religious expression as they deem fit, so long as it does not distract or disrupt other students. Wearing a burka in this case would be fine.
For teachers, the public institution's leaders and authority figures, it's a thornier situation. Given that they represent the institution in part, they cannot be allowed to endorse a religion to the extent that it could be seen as proselytizing. Similar to the rule for students, it can also not be distracting, disruptive, or obtrusive to learning. In the precise case of a burka, I would say the clothing is both obtrusive and distracting and should not be allowed. Hijabs and shaylas are a different story. They're not covering the face, the mouth, the eyes. They would surely engender inquiries from younger students, but would not be impeding or counterproductive to the extent that full facial coverings would. Looking at it another way, I'd have no issue with a teacher wearing, say, a necklace with a cross, or the star of David. But those emblems on the *walls* of a classroom are a different story. And should the teacher come in wearing a shirt that says something like "Jesus Is Lord" or whatever, yeah that is problematic because it could be construed more as endorsement, however slight, rather than simple and unobtrusive personal expression.
Just my personal thoughts, though. I know it's a touchy subject and there's never a "right" answer. |
RadioSuicide
06.28.22 | https://ibb.co/JQYzYwD |
tectactoe
06.28.22 | @someone: see my message one above yours. Your auth leaning is only +1 from the central axis, which is within my Ā±2.0 range to be considered "centrist" for a specific axis. It merely indicates that while you have a few more authoritarian leanings (v. libertarian), you still represent more of a stable balance between the two that a true leaning toward one side. Again, that range (Ā±2) is largely arbitrary and based only on my own scaffolding logic that more than a 20% lean should be needed to "pick" a side, so to speak. |
someone
06.28.22 | i see
okeydoke then, i will not be pursuing my career as a radical from now on
thank you |
Wildcardbitchesss
06.28.22 | just for shits and gigs
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-9.67&auth=0.67&prog=8.75
Death to capitalism |
Cimnele
06.28.22 | i think i answered some of the questions too quick. don't wanna blame the questions so much as my useless brain |
Frost15
06.28.22 | I'm glad to be alone in my category, just like irl. Fuck governments, fuck society and fuck this world of lies. |
Egarran
06.28.22 | except sputnik
sputnik is truth |
ashcrash9
06.28.22 | https://ibb.co/jggdSs6 |
FR33L0RD
06.28.22 | Passive non-republicans (dems/anarchist..all others) are active complices of; retrogrades, ultra white, pseudo-religious, dangerous, scared nationalist. Talk about it and act, everywhere possible. Dont get discouraged by other low attention weaklings out there.
Btw, people gonna hear that a lot, get accustomed and act.
Ok, now, it is the time to get back to Andromeda Galaxy šø by the Stargate near Alpha Centauri, hoping the clothe apes from earth to be able to resolve their inner conflicts and explore the Milky Way Galaxy. Then, we will meet again. Au Revoir! š |
pjquinones747
06.28.22 | who do we think is the first to end up getting Auth-Right |
tectactoe
06.28.22 | Doof or zak |
Egarran
06.28.22 | Parks obv |
Drifter
06.28.22 | i would have guessed get low |
Drifter
06.28.22 | yo ryus we have the same socially progressive number lets have a mcdonald's date |
necropig
06.28.22 | L/R -1.33
A/L 0.67
P/C 0 |
ffs
06.28.22 | i voted for goku |
ItsTheSquirrel
06.28.22 | L/R -6.33
A/L 2
P/C 7.5
so I guess I'm just a leftie |
WatchItExplode
06.29.22 | -3, 0.67, 2.5 |
LeddSledd
06.29.22 | my political view places me on a plane three-dimensionally ascended above all your simple-minded opinions |
Dedes
06.29.22 | L/R-.33
Auth/Lib-.33
Prog/Con 4.69
Yeah, unsurprisingly minimally lib-centrist. These things are fun for a kinda shallow birds eye glance at things. |
ashcrash9
06.29.22 | "who do we think is the first to end up getting Auth-Right"
anyone who might probably wouldn't admit it at this point, let's be real |
Get Low
06.29.22 | "i would have guessed get low"
nah b i'm the most liberal of the liberals |
tectactoe
06.29.22 | Most people fail to realize that typical US Democratic politicians would end up in the auth-right sector. Republicans would obviously be farther up/right, but anyone who thinks a majority of Democratic representatives aren't authoritarian and capitalist to some extent are fooling themselves. The ones who are truly more socialist (e.g. AOC, Sanders) are obviously very vocal but wouldn't stand a chance in running for presidency (as we saw with Sanders). |
Egarran
06.29.22 | >Most people fail |
anarchistfish
06.29.22 | i don't really understand the presentation here |
RadioSuicide
06.29.22 | i mean, capitalism is a horribly flawed standalone system that prioritizes the few over the many in and of itself, but then to give all the cards within that system to a handful of major corporations, whose only concern is to maximize profits and puppeteer politicians... what good can come? human greed is boundless and all-consuming. democrats and republicans are two sides of the same shitty, crony-capitalist coin |
tectactoe
06.29.22 | "i don't really understand the presentation here"
what is confusing you, my friend? |
tectactoe
07.26.22 | The 2024 US Presidential Election stands a chance to be the most miserable one yet! |
Egarran
07.26.22 | Then again, someone might snap and make it entertaining. |
DadKungFu
07.26.22 | L/R: -4.67
A/L: -5.67
P/c: 4.06 |
JWT155
07.26.22 | L/R: 5.33
Auth/Lib: -5.33
Prog/Con 0.94
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=5.33&auth=-5.33&prog=0.94
Right, Liberal, socially Centrist
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Jasdevi087
07.26.22 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?
right=-8.33&auth=-2.33&prog=7.19
other compasses have put me closer to the bottom left corner than this one. I found I was hitting neutral/unsure way too often, dunno if that was just where questions were too vague or if i just need a coffee |
tectactoe
07.27.22 | Finally another Lib-Right, nice.
'dunno if that was just where questions were too vague or if i just need a coffee'
Perhaps both. Questions on almost all these sorts of tests are way too vague and/or open to individual interpretation.
Even something as simple as "Gender is a social construct" can mean different things to different people. Are we talking about gender identity? Or gender roles? Because that drastically changes my answer, etc. |
Zig
08.04.22 | Lib-Right, Socially Centrist |
Pheromone
08.04.22 | hahaha of course colton is a centrist |
anat
08.04.22 | -4.67
-1
5.63
i guess! |
ReefaJones
08.04.22 | L/R: -2.67
A/L: 1.67
P/C: 3.13 |
Egarran
08.04.22 | Phero is above this vulgar matrix |
tectactoe
08.04.22 | @Zig, you got axis numbers for me bb? |
Koris
08.04.22 | Lib-Left (Socially Progressive)
Left/Right: -2
Auth/Lib: -3.33
Prog/Con: 6.88 |
TheAntichrist
08.04.22 | yawl enjoy women killing unborn children |
Pheromone
08.04.22 | i AM above this vulgar matrix |
gschwen
08.04.22 | Left: -4.33
Center:=-0.33
Prog=5.00
I guess this is Socially Progressive |
tectactoe
08.04.22 | 'yawl enjoy women killing unborn children'
Some of us just prefer not allowing the federal or state government control over every aspect of our lives š¤·āāļø |
tectactoe
08.04.22 | @gschwen: Social progressiveness / conservativism is independent of the economically left/right and authoritarian/libertarian axes. (Obviously some of the views therein are more characteristic of either social progressives / conservatives, but they are measured separately here.) It's the bar on the right side next to the graph; yours is +5, which is well on the progressive side.
If this graph was a cube instead of a square, it'd be the z-axis. |
Zig
08.04.22 | @tectactoe: yes, tony
L/R: 3
A/L: -2
P/C: -0.62 |
tectactoe
08.04.22 | Nice, ty.
I've put you in Econ-Right (i.e., "centrist" on the auth/libertarian axis) because at the start of this I arbitrarily decided to define any axis bias of Ā±2 would be the cut-off for centrism (20% of the full-scale, which goes Ā±10 in each direction). |
gabba
05.07.24 | L/R: -2.33
A/L: 0
P/C: 5.63
using Colton's label from above, I'm with the plebs |
Demon of the Fall
05.07.24 | L/R: -3.33
A/L: -0.67
P/C: 8.13
someone translate this
high on the progressive chart, fairly neutral on authority (just below the line) and towards the left but not drastically so |
Uzumaki
05.07.24 | https://imgur.com/a/PHhJMPP |
Uzumaki
05.07.24 | Agreed that quite a few of these questions were vaguer than could be answered accurately. |
Demon of the Fall
05.07.24 | yeah, for a couple of the vaguer ones I ended up just answering neutrally |
Ryus
05.07.24 | i bet i would b totally different now |
Donchivo
05.07.24 | L/R axis -5.67
Auth Lib axis 0
prog / Con 4.78
I dunno about this thing... |
Flugmorph
05.07.24 | L/R axis -6.33
Auth Lib axis 0.33
prog / Con 9.69
almost maxxed out with progressivism lol
https://imgur.com/a/QYlP8tb |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | oh i did the wrong test |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | L/R: -9
Auth/Lib: -2.67
Prog/Con: 4.69 |
gabba
05.07.24 | an anarchistās political fingerprint? |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | I was never an anarchist tbh |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | "someone translate this"
Just another basic bitch progressive social democrat I'm afraid. |
gabba
05.07.24 | OK, sorry, so I guess youāre not a fish either. |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | Can't comment on that |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | I'm surprised I wasn't more libertarian than that though
also
"Finally another Lib-Right, nice."
lol |
StormChaser
05.07.24 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-3.33&auth=-0.67&prog=3.75 |
tectactoe
05.07.24 | Lib-rights rejoice š |
tectactoe
05.07.24 | Will update the list tonight, at work right now and for some reason the Sput list editor won't load on my work PC (lmao go figure) |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Just took it again for shits and giggles, you know how some boomer brained people say that you get more conservative the older you get? Bullshit
pretty much dead center between auth and lib and literally all the way to the left, progressive 9.06. Im going further and further left the older I get |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Allow me to reiterate: Death to capitalism |
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | L/R: -7.67
Auth/Lib: -1
Prog/Con: 7.81 |
gabba
05.07.24 | āIām surprised I wasn't more libertarian than that thoughā
same here, my eyeballs almost fell out when I saw I scored zero on the auth/lib axis |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | i got more "conservative" but also further left lol |
anarchistfish
05.07.24 | ppl still treat communism as a dirty word |
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | how do you even get socially conservative in this quiz lmaoooo what the HELL did GreatQ SAY? |
Shamus248
05.07.24 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-5.00&auth=-2.67&prog=5.94
Left/Right: -5
Auth/Lib: -2.67
Prog/Con: 5.94 |
CugnoBrasso
05.07.24 | My political leanings shall remain secret tovarish |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Communism is a dirty word because of red scare propaganda perpetrated by the US government during the Cold War. rest in piss Ronald Reagan, glad youāre fucking gone you piece of dogshit |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Wished he died sooner tbh |
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | probably has something to do with the many failures of 20th century ML regimes but I agree Red Scare propaganda hurt it a lot too lol |
zakalwe
05.07.24 | Communism is a dirty word because of Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, famine, millions of deaths, pogroms and complete control but yeah Reagan boo hiss. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | oh zak, didnāt realize you were a fucking idiot. still love ya tho |
zakalwe
05.07.24 | Ta comrade |
budgie
05.07.24 | U cant make a online starbucks order with payPal. can u believe that ? what are we living in the dang dark ages |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | my fee fees when I canāt order a triple espresso with dogecoin |
gabba
05.07.24 | when you succeed, stick to fair trade coffee |
budgie
05.07.24 | 9ooooh but i can use google pay. interesting veryu interesting
also my order (trenta cold brew w. oat milk, light ice) is 40 centers cheaper thru the phone app !!!! wow |
WretchedCacophony
05.07.24 | "didnāt realize you were a fucking idiot"
Wow maybe take a step back. Lol this is the kind of idiocy that divides people. 'you're stupid because you don't know what I know! I can't quite explain everything so I'll just get mad!' |
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | I'll leave you with four words
I'm glad Reagan dead |
Shamus248
05.07.24 | taking a step back and not resorting to idiocy is a taaaalllllll fuckin order for some of the people on this site |
budgie
05.07.24 | wiow wow wow wo wwo wwow wow wow wow wow guys calm down geezus chriss |
budgie
05.07.24 | my starbutts gift card has been reloaded lets do thissssssssssssss |
gabba
05.07.24 | politics stirs emotions, the damn bitch |
Shamus248
05.07.24 | HELLO BUDDGIE WENDaLL HERRE AUNT KREMBLESs SAAYS IF yOU CL3AN YOR ROOM SHE WILL TAKE YO TTYO WENDYS FORR CINnABON PULL APART BREAKFAST!!!!1111 GOBBLESS |
WretchedCacophony
05.07.24 | politics sure does incite emotion but I think you're probably not *at peace* if that's the case. Though a lot of people aren't in that kind of state as a result of systemic issues, or simply from getting a bad start in life
anyway-
X: -0.67
Y -1.33
Z 0
lol |
gabba
05.07.24 | easy to be at peace with centrist scores like this lol |
budgie
05.07.24 | i got a grande instead of a trenta???? what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck and just like that im a fascist. kill everyone |
tectactoe
05.07.24 | Now this is the kind of drama I was hoping to incite when I made the list two years ago. Back on schedule š |
Futures
05.07.24 | these questions are even more lib left slanted than political compass lol |
markjamie
05.07.24 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-4.33&auth=0.67&prog=8.13 |
Egarran
05.07.24 | They figured out that the way to defeat the west was to boost capitalism. |
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | however skewed these tests seem this one sure read wretched like a book LOL |
gabba
05.07.24 | All questionnaires have flaws, and the score wonāt change oneās perception of being the new Che or Mahatma. Still, such scales can help us realize how much our beliefs donāt align with their labels. I can blame the questionnaire for poor formulation of statements (often rightfully), but I do it only when the result surprises me and doesnāt correspond to my views of myself. So whoās to blame really? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | @wretched
Buddy I was just messing around and I actually think zak is generally pretty funny. Take a step back and just look at the little culture we have here. Weāre all abusive toward each other but at the end of the day thereās maybe like 2 or 3 users that I actually dislike. zak is absolutely not among them |
WretchedCacophony
05.07.24 | I don't think that you can quantify someone's perspective with a value, particularly when it comes to something as faceted as government. I think the government should fix loopholes that allow corporations to exploit tax codes and not be justly penalized for injury in medical, industrial etc, but I also think gov't shouldn't be inflating currency, bailing out corporation, sending billions of dollars in arms to foreign nations or regulating personal decisions.
@Wildcard well I do apologize then (: |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Youāre good fam, and that goes for almost anyone. If Iām super confrontational and being kinda mean just know Iām almost always just fucking around. I love you bunch of degenerates. |
tectactoe
05.07.24 | Lord P(o)))ts energy |
Futures
05.07.24 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=4.67&auth=-3.67&prog=5.00 |
StormChaser
05.07.24 | fuck politics
long live the comment section
also long live sput abuse
does that make me totalitarian or a fucking idiot? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Both but thatās a good thing |
BaselineOOO
05.07.24 | I haven't seen any based take from anyone here ever I bet you're all a bunch of wishy-washy centrists irl lol |
CugnoBrasso
05.07.24 | Read Parenti |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | base Iām a full blown commie so donāt include me in that shit.
Iām not loud and proud at work because Iād probably lose my fucking job if my bosses found out, they just know that I was a fan of Bernie. And even that is an exaggeration, I wish he was as far left as these right wing nut jobs make him out to be |
BaselineOOO
05.07.24 | Economically communist wow like yeah you and 95% of humans?! Gimme a call when you got the balls to be an authoritarian commie. |
neekafat
05.07.24 | guess i missed this? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | leftist infighting is the dumbest fucking thing and I see it from people that I tend to think are intelligent. Base, if youāre being serious, we probably agree on 99% of political shit. Letās start this fucking revolution and then weāll hash out our differences once weāve achieved our common goals |
BaselineOOO
05.07.24 | The thing is that I am a commie but in USA the Republicans were objectively the better party for the last 4 decades, so umm maybe let's start the revolution somewhere else, Australia or Italy? |
budgie
05.07.24 | what a comment |
StormChaser
05.07.24 | Italy is a garbage dump |
zakalwe
05.07.24 | lol Eg
Shrewd genius |
Futures
05.07.24 | zak you gotta set these tossers straight! |
GiaNXGX
05.07.24 | Iām prob auth right but have some communalities with leftist thought, so outsider it is - due to cultural / sociocultural reasons I tend to flinch at the thought of homosexuality, i mean femboys are gucci but we canāt survive on that alone |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | ā¦base wtf? Iām not a democrat apologist but are you really saying Reagan and both Bushes are better than Obama or Clinton?
Like they all fucking suck, but really?? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | I will say that Trump is objectively a better president than pretty much every republican president going back to WWII. The romanticism some liberals have of Bush is absolutely insane. That man should die in prison for what heās done. |
bellovddd
05.07.24 | damn reading through these comments. lots of peeps should just stick to talking about music lmao. |
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | he was better largely because he could not cooperate with the rest of his party to get any of his agenda through congress, if left unchecked he's actually incredibly dangerous. Bush successfully killed a million plus people in the middle east though so obviously materially he's way worse. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | ^^^ yep |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Him being a complete fucking idiot really helped this country, even though he did unmeasurable damage with his fucking Supreme Court appointments |
budgie
05.07.24 | wild card dont engage ur above that |
gabba
05.07.24 | Which Star Wars movie would you rate as democrat vs republican?
Iād say:
dem-rep-rep-dem-rep-dem-rep-dem-rep |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Unfortunately Iām not budgie |
zakalwe
05.07.24 | All top level politicians are complete sociopathic, megalomaniac nob heads who have absolutely no grounding in reality whatsoever.
They gradually grow even more incorrigible as a result of the power they crave completely corrupting them which ultimately leads them into the hands of the true leaders of the world.
The bankers
|
Gameofmetal
05.07.24 | Cool it Adolf |
budgie
05.07.24 | jhow many dang star wars movies are there i thought there were 6 |
Egarran
05.07.24 | Had to agree with zak that time he called me a genius. |
Jasdevi087
05.07.24 | "leftist infighting is the dumbest fucking thing and I see it from people that I tend to think are intelligent. Base, if youāre being serious, we probably agree on 99% of political shit. Letās start this fucking revolution and then weāll hash out our differences once weāve achieved our common goals"
USSR origin story |
Jash
05.07.24 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-3.00&auth=-2.67&prog=5.31 |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | now that was based zakā¦ as long as you didnāt mean āthe jewsā when you said bankers lmao |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | The fall of the USSR is one of the biggest tragedies of the last fifty years and Iām tired of pretending itās not |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.07.24 | Iām not going to comment or respond to anything regarding that. I said what I said. |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | "The fall of the USSR is one of the biggest tragedies of the last fifty years and Iām tired of pretending itās not"
^THIS
Wildcard if sputnik had an add as a friend feature I would befriend the fuck out of you right now |
budgie
05.08.24 | where are you from wildcard |
BaselineOOO
05.08.24 | People assume communism is inherently corrupt when in fact it is the Russians who are fucked in the brain. Russia should be excluded from all statistics, they are and always will be different. If a serious country like the USA gave communism a chance this planet would be better off. |
anarchistfish
05.08.24 | Pls don't feed the Baseline |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | @Cugno
Weāre comrades now. Are you on PS or Discord?
@budgie
The greater STL area. Not exactly the city but not exactly way out in the suburbs either. Not great, but decent neighborhood, comparatively speaking |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | And honestly Base isnāt entirely off base. Right wingers love to make the āoH iT wAsNt TrUe CoMmUnIsMā argument, but arguably (and Iām being very generous to anti commies with that arguably) true communism has never been achieved. The USSR came close, but unfortunately it had its fair share of bad actors in the form of political leaders that had their own agenda. And then of course thereās Gorbachev, who, i guess to put it lightly, read my opinion on Ronald Reagan. I feel similarly about him.
No, Iām not well read. Yes, I can be problematic with the way that I speak. But I donāt particularly give a shit. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism and the world would be a far better place if we all took a page or two from Cuba and the USSR. |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | I'm on a sputnik Discord although I suspect it might not be the official one or the most active. No idea what PS is. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | I shouldāve just said PlayStation lol
Iām not super active on discord but we should definitely add each other |
gabba
05.08.24 | Cuba and the USSR came close to communism? No way dude, these countries were also ran by greedy-paranoid bastards, and it will always be like this. The same goes for the church btw. |
Demon of the Fall
05.08.24 | "Just another basic bitch progressive social democrat I'm afraid."
sounds good to me, I think someone has already mentioned this (reading is hard) but the whole 'greater degrees of conservatism with age' thing hasn't gotten me yet! |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | @gabba
Really shouldāve clarified that they came closest to my ideal view of communism. Iām not saying either are/were perfect in any way. |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | I'm getting more radical as I age, partially in response to my parents getting closer and closer to the far right.
You can criticize the Soviet Union all you want and I'll even agree to some extent, but homelessness was nearly non-existent, education was completely free (university included), and contrary to popular belief there was enough food, and everybody had access to it (the average BMI in the Soviet Union was similar to the US, and I'm quoting the CIA). I'd take the Soviet Union over modern Russia any day. |
thatbandsucks
05.08.24 | Fucking hate this site |
StormChaser
05.08.24 | that's alright, the site probably fucking hates you too thatbandsucks |
gabba
05.08.24 | "homelessness was nearly non-existent, education was completely free (university included), and contrary to popular belief there was enough food, and everybody had access to it" -> Scandinavian countries come very close to this nowadays, you don't need dictatorship packed in nice-sounding ideology to reach this. |
Butkuiss
05.08.24 | The idea that the USSR had one static economic system is kind of off-base though anyway ā what are people talking about when you say the USSRās economic system was flawed? The NEP? War communism? The Great Turn? Theyāre all very different approaches to economics with very different goals, advantages and blind spots. I donāt have an issue with discussion and criticism, as there are very valid critiques to be made, but itās not a monolith any more than the New Deal and Reaganomics are. I think it pays to be explicit about what weāre talking about. |
StormChaser
05.08.24 | looooooool just saw base's comment saying the US is a serious country, wildest take i've seen here |
thatbandsucks
05.08.24 | Are you FartInATeacup? |
StormChaser
05.08.24 | you may address me as such if you wish, but not sure the other Storm would be flattered |
Flugmorph
05.08.24 | OP fuckin lied |
BaselineOOO
05.08.24 | "looooooool just saw base's comment saying the US is a serious country, wildest take i've seen here"
why don't you move to Europe Canada Japan Korea (clown world) then? |
Jasdevi087
05.08.24 | "No, Iām not well read. "
then pleeeeeeease my bro read more about the USSR and Cuba before you suggest take any amount of pages out of their books. |
StormChaser
05.08.24 | man I am from Europe and am thankful every day I don't have to think about mortgaging my house if I get an ear infection |
Jasdevi087
05.08.24 | "and contrary to popular belief there was enough food, and everybody had access to it"
?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor |
thatbandsucks
05.08.24 | *insert pompous Wikipedia critique |
Egarran
05.08.24 | But Storm you would be rich if you were American, you wouldn't have to care about poverty. |
zakalwe
05.08.24 | We all have absolutely no idea how fortunate we are.
We have become pampered as fuck and wouldnāt last 5 minutes in the early 20th century.
Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead,
Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep sea swell
And the profit and loss.
A current under sea
Picked his bones in whispers. As he rose and fell
He passed the stages of his age and youth
Entering the whirlpool.
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
|
Jasdevi087
05.08.24 | zak i'm surprised you've lasted in the 21st century, since you turned 95 when they elected clinton
just because shit has been worse in some places, doesn't mean it's not shit under capitalism
no idea what you're chatting about with that lord tennyson looking shit but get back to me when you develop class consciousness and you support a football team that doesn't suck. peace
- ronald reagan |
zakalwe
05.08.24 | Haha
ā¤ļø |
StormChaser
05.08.24 | that's true Eggy, to quote the great line from Attack of the Clones: "I want to go home and rethink my life" |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | Famines were a thing even in Tsarist Russia, we underestimate how underdeveloped Russia was when the SU was founded. The closest they've come to suffering a famine since WWII was when capitalism was reintroduced in the 90s and agriculture was re-privatized.
The major famines of the last 50 years almost exclusively happened in severely underdeveloped capitalist countries, and yet we don't seem to blame capitalism for that. |
Jasdevi087
05.08.24 | yes, 100% capitalism has been responsible for myriad famines, and yeah post-soviet Russia is still fucked, just in different ways now.
I think the notion though that "there were no famines in the ussr after WWII" is grossly misrepresentative of food security thereafter. And lets not pretend this was the only way ordinary people suffered in the ussr, cause it wasn't.
Like as you can see from the thread above I'm as far to the left as anyone else but I think particularly the online left need to start taking discussions about regimes like the soviet union, china, cuba, etc with way more nuance than we seem to. And like to reiterate I'm sure there are economic policies the soviet union had that I'd back and probably yeah some of the shit they did worked to an extent. But it was a rough fucking place to live. |
Egarran
05.08.24 | Yeah storm and if you're white there's no excuse to stay away from USA. |
Butkuiss
05.08.24 | Zak Iām finishing up with Kim Stanley Robinson and have some Iain M Banks ready to go on my shelf, donāt put me off it please xo. |
WretchedCacophony
05.08.24 | What would be a good resource to check out to get a good understanding of why the USSR's collapse can be viewed as a tragedy? Though that does depend on the lens you are filtered through.
|
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | @Jasdevi, I'm not a gulag denier or anything like that, I do have my fair share of grievances about former communist experiments, but it's hard to have a fair "nuanced" discussion when so many of our talking points come straight from the cold war era.
I'm not claiming the Soviet Union was heaven on Earth. Soviet citizens themselves were very critical of the government, but not because it was the totalitarian orwellian regime we think it was, but rather because corruption was rampant, state officials were slackers and many institutions worked very slowly as a consequence (if at all).
But if you're referring to people of the online left denying the abduction of Uyghurs by the Chinese government or defending North Korea then ok, it's problematic and we can agree on that. |
mouldypigeon
05.08.24 | L/R: -4
Auth/Lib: -1.67
Prog/Con: -2.81
doesn't feel correct but interesting for a quick quiz |
Kompys2000
05.08.24 | I became a communist specifically because i want to put Zak in a gulag |
Gameofmetal
05.08.24 | Don't like lumping in Cuba with the likes of the USSR or Maoist China, just simply doesn't have the same list of horrors that those did and has persisted under the hostile shadow of American imperialism for most of a century, tons of US sanctions fucking with them, etc. |
zakalwe
05.08.24 | The cap fits Komp |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | Also @WretchedCacophony, have you ever read Parenti? If not, try Blackshirts and Reds, it's a very short read but a very informative one. |
WretchedCacophony
05.08.24 | I appreciate that recommendation so I'll check it out and maybe follow up with ya eventually lol. Between studying German, Chess and reading the Stormlight Archives my free time is minimal (: |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | Lmao I totally get it, I mainly read when I'm on public transport, otherwise I wouldn't have time. There's only so much you can do if you work a full time job, and my side activities mostly involve music so yahhp, life choices.
Viel Spass beim Lernen! |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | @gameofmetal
Youāre entirely correct. Cuba as a nation are absolute fucking champs. And if you ever hear an American Cuban complaining about how bad communism is itās probably because their family owned a fucking sugar plantation or some shit and Castro liberated that, so them people in boats were prob either fuckin slave owners or descendants of some |
Kompys2000
05.08.24 | Castro is a genuine hero, more a leader than any of the nitwits we've elected since WWII |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | [2]
Man was a fucking revolutionary through and through. How many times did the US try to clap him. Hundreds? Fucking champ, all the real ones love Castro |
Egarran
05.08.24 | Impressive how red this turned. Hasta la victoria siempre! |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | And the good kind of red, not that republican bullshit |
anarchistfish
05.08.24 | Any agreement with baseline is accidental |
WretchedCacophony
05.08.24 | speaking of red idk how majority republicans can support Israel at this point, or why there was so much support to begin with. Though that's probably the best modern example of the media and government establishment, on both sides, working hand in hand for an objective that literally doesn't serve their constituents at all. I suppose this is what you may refer to as a symptom of corporate fascism? |
Kompys2000
05.08.24 | They support Israel because they want America to be an ethnostate too |
gabba
05.08.24 | As long as America lies left to Israel on the map, they wonāt succeed. |
Gameofmetal
05.08.24 | idk it's like the evangelicals love israel for religious reasons, the neocons love it for imperialism reasons, the fascists hate it because jewish |
unclereich
05.08.24 | and which category does Biden fall under |
Gameofmetal
05.08.24 | imperialism reasons |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | A fucking genocidal Zionist, so imperialism I guess |
Frost15
05.08.24 | "idk it's like the evangelicals love israel for religious reasons, the neocons love it for imperialism reasons, the fascists hate it because jewish"
It's funny because fascism has a lot in common with zionism. In fact zionists and nazis co-operated becuause they benefited mutually. |
Gameofmetal
05.08.24 | There's a lot of weird bedfellows like that in the world of racial extremists, but hating on jews is too integral to nazis lol. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | ngl Germans circa 1940 would probably be really proud of Israel rnā¦ and then theyād kill them too |
tectactoe
05.08.24 | You guys have really taken this and run with it. Proud of u all. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | Well Germany is also technically proud today to considering the support |
anarchistfish
05.08.24 | Curious what econ-left refers too since this is specified in the test |
WretchedCacophony
05.08.24 | did the Italian fascists make similar moves in the 30s or were there not enough Jews in Italy for it to be noticed? I don't think Jews were particularly safe in the USSR either. If they could've just stayed in Europe there wouldn't have been any 'need' to create an Israeli state |
Frost15
05.08.24 | "Don't like lumping in Cuba with the likes of the USSR or Maoist China, just simply doesn't have the same list of horrors that those did and has persisted under the hostile shadow of American imperialism for most of a century, tons of US sanctions fucking with them, etc."
"Castro is a genuine hero, more a leader than any of the nitwits we've elected since WWII"
"Youāre entirely correct. Cuba as a nation are absolute fucking champs. And if you ever hear an American Cuban complaining about how bad communism is itās probably because their family owned a fucking sugar plantation or some shit and Castro liberated that, so them people in boats were prob either fuckin slave owners or descendants of some"
When it comes to facing imperialism and showing guts in confronting a 'Goliath' like the USA Castro was a real 'David', but when you look at his personal lifestyle, and country management he was a disaster. Truth be told, he didn't have it easy, but that does not excuse the fact that he hated homosexuals and placed many of them in labour camps (something that took ages for him to recognize), he was a male chauvinist that saw women as mere sexual objects (unsurprisingly Cuba ended up being a sexual tourism paradise), something that many European men know first hand... I actually know some men (now very old) that were inside the Spanish communist party that used to go there every summer to "bone hot cubans because it was cheap and abundant". Also his attitude towards black people was very suspicious to say the least.
Also saying that cubans that critiziced Castro's Cuba come from rich familes that owned plantations is the biggest joke I've heard in a while. Plenty of poor cubans that fled to Spain and had to work hard for a living. I myself know quite a few. People that worked in factories, priests, small grocery shop owners. Pretty nice people.
In the end Castro, like all Communist leaders, became a bourgeois and became progressively distant from his people. Look at his descendants wealth and status...
PS: I still prefer Castro over any USA president btw. All the leaked CIA documents in the last decade clearly show the twisted, psycopathic cancer american imperialism is... |
Calc
05.08.24 | I'm still auth left 3 years later noice..
L/R: -1.33
Auth/ Lib: 3.33
Prog/ Con: 5 |
Gameofmetal
05.08.24 | Idk about spain but it's certainly a common belief that the florida cuban population is extremely conservative and commonly descended from middle to upper class refugees. |
Nikkolae
05.08.24 | no surprise here
L/R: -7.33
auth/lib: -1.33
prog/con: 5 |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | @frost
Yeah Iām not saying the man is immune from criticism, I feel similarly about Che. Both were fucking heroes but both did have some problematic views. But we should also keep in mind that they were both very much a product of their time. Had they been zoomers or some shit Iām sure both probably wouldāve had very progressive views socially speaking. |
gabba
05.08.24 | Letās not go down the road speculating what Hitler would be like as a zoomer. |
Nikkolae
05.08.24 | no, actually lets, i bet he would listen to Yeat |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.24 | Letās be honest heād definitely be jamming Skrewdriver |
anarchistfish
05.08.24 | Italian fascism wasn't really based on anti semitism...until the alliance with the Nazis anyway. But afaik anti semitism was widespread across the continent |
anarchistfish
05.08.24 | No one will take Lenin nor Tito from me |
Typhoon24
05.08.24 | (-1,1.33) is centrist. 5.63 socially progressive. pretty much accurate |
anarchistfish
05.08.24 | libs everywherrrre |
Kompys2000
05.08.24 | Italian fascism was largely a product of how badly the country got fucked at Versailles. Left a whole bunch of violent, shellshocked thugs feeling like they put their necks on the line for nothing, all Mussolini really had to do was give them an assignment |
CugnoBrasso
05.08.24 | Yahhp my grandmother used to live in fascist Italy as a child and she told me that sometimes the black shirts would randomly kidnap or kill people on the street, and she saw corpses hanging upside down on the street lamps on her way to school. |
unclereich
05.08.24 | L/R: -1.67
auth/lib:-2.0
prog/con:0.63 |
zakalwe
05.08.24 | Thought Iād give it a go.
The questions are a complete nonsense but I am according to nobody but this
L/R 0.67
Auth/Lib 1.33
Prog/Con -3.12
Centre Authoritarian Right |
Egarran
05.08.24 | The British auth right is good entertainment these days. |
zakalwe
05.08.24 | It doesnāt exist mate |
Gameofmetal
05.08.24 | that's so embarrassing for you |
gabba
05.08.24 | My mate used to say even god doesnāt like those indecisive cunts in the centre, youāre lucky she doesnāt exist. |
zakalwe
05.08.24 | haha.
I tell you what Iāll be hollering in its face whatever it is. A right old fashioned bollocking.
I will literally be old man yells at cloud. |
Deathconscious
05.08.24 | https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-6.67&auth=-3.33&prog=9.06 |
Kompys2000
05.08.24 | -10
1.65
9.38
First perfect 10 in the game get rekt bitches |
gabba
05.08.24 | āI will literally be old man yells at cloud.ā
Nice, if you do that, just think thatās progressive, and itāll be alright. |
cycosynner
05.08.24 | Left/Right Axis: -4.33
Auth/Lib Axis: -3.33
Prog/Con Axis: 8.13
Lib-left & econ-left, which isn't surprising for me. |
budgie
05.08.24 | psht kompy that 1.65 is pussy shit!! |
Egarran
05.08.24 | I just knew kompys would turn this into a competition. |
gabba
05.08.24 | I concur, tried to redo the test to prove it is not hard to get -10, -10, 10, but I only reached this:
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=-6.00&auth=-10.00&prog=8.75
I have to admit Kompys, Iām not lefty enough, no matter how hard I try. But at least I can reach -10 on the auth/lib axis. |
Kompys2000
05.08.24 | Yeah a competition I'm WINNING |
budgie
05.08.24 | i can't get my y axis high enough : * ( |
Egarran
05.09.24 | There are pills for that.
|
Shamus248
05.10.24 | "I will say that Trump is objectively a better president than pretty much every republican president going back to WWII. The romanticism some liberals have of Bush is absolutely insane. That man should die in prison for what heās done."
Based af |
Egarran
05.11.24 | Using a terror attack to commit war crimes is a popular method. You get to play the victim card while killing innocent people.
I wonder how Trump would react if 9/11 happened on his watch. |
MetalMarcJK
05.11.24 |
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/results.html?right=0.00&auth=-1.23&prog=-2.11 |
BaselineOOO
05.11.24 | Isn't it adorable seeing the childlike innocence of Americans who still believe in democracy and rank presidents? < 3
The underground monarchy and Rome still rule the world, wake the fuck up slaves. |
FowlKrietzsche
05.11.24 | Its ridiculous to rank US Presidents because they're all white supremacists (okay Ulysses Grant is no. 1)
No kings tho, point me in the direction of this underground monarch please |
budgie
05.11.24 | i personally hate FDR |
Futures
05.11.24 | very based budgie |
Sinternet
05.11.24 | SHIT THREAD |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.11.24 | Aside from internment camps what what was so bad about FDR?? |
Ryus
05.11.24 | couldnt walk |
budgie
05.11.24 | okay'd the bombing campaigns in france despite being advised they could kill up to 100k civilians and pressured by churchill against it, ended up killing 70k (civilians) and completely leveling historic cities like brest and rouen because unnecessary loss of military personnel would be publicly unpopular, and planned to split france up into easily manageable postwar states, thank fuck he died when he did and DG was able to generate a lot of goodwill with eisenhower and churchill. also FDR turned away jews iirc
and he couldnt walk |
markjamie
05.12.24 | From an Australian point of view, in general we liked Clinton but thought he was a bit of a sleaze, thought Bush was a war-mongering but oddly endearing idiot, loved Obama who made us like and respect America again, and then laughed our arses off for 4 years that anyone could elect someone as incompetently vile and useless as Trump. Biden is viewed as ancient but essentially decent and has restored some of our Trump-destroyed respect for the US. And we cannot believe that there aren't two better candidates than a pair of mentally and physically declining 80 year-olds in November.
I'm too young to go back past Clinton really, but remember Reagan at least being highly respected. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | They all fucking suck from my commie ass perspective
The only presidential candidate I ever had a modicum of respect for was Bernie. Iāll never forgive the DNC for rallying behind Biden and telling Bernie to fuck off. This man should be finishing his second term right nowā¦ and weād have a 6-3 liberal majority in the Supreme Court. So at the very least, M4A would probably have been passed, or at least some public option that is better than Obamacareā¦ oh and women wouldnāt have had their bodily autonomy violently ripped from them. The genocide in Gaza also very likely wouldnāt be quite as grim.
I hate it here |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | Damn. I really didnāt know all that budgie. How could I have supported a man that couldnāt fucking walk this whole time?? |
budgie
05.12.24 | ive been 99% with bernie all the way (his hesitancy toward nuclear energy is the big mark against him) but his recent pussyfooting about gaza kinda bummed me out |
MetalMarcJK
05.12.24 | Is this the thread where we talk about women living with bears, not men? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | Yeahā¦ heās gotten a lot better on it the longer itās gone on. Iād honestly say that heās been probably the biggest non-Muslim ally in governmentā¦ but correct me if Iām wrong. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | Itās also just like, I volunteered to canvas and donated hundreds of dollars to both of his presidential runs. Itās hard for me to hate on the man when heās literally probably the single most important man of the last 30 years as far as radicalizing young people go.
Now, donāt get it twisted. Iām not saying heās a full blown commie, but A) I truly believe he leans further left than what his professed policies are. He quoted Marx in the 70ās and 80ās. And thereās also that famous photo of him getting dragged away by cops at a civil rights rally.
And B) as disappointing as some of his stances are, he blew the fucking door open for an entire generation of millennials and zoomers to become leftist. I love the guy personally. |
budgie
05.12.24 | what is "non-muslim ally" supposed to mean here? i'm upset that he condemned the invasion of gaza |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | budgie what |
budgie
05.12.24 | i see now non-muslim ally is indeed a sincere term used on the interwebs |
Kompys2000
05.12.24 | The worst thing FDR ever did was let that hick dipshit Harry Truman into the naval observatory |
Deathconscious
05.12.24 | "i'm upset that he condemned the invasion of gaza"
Are you one of those pro-genocide freaks? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | I mean, not particularly. I donāt think Iāve ever uttered the term. I was using it to describe pro Palestine folks that arenāt Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | I think it was a bad attempt at humor |
Deathconscious
05.12.24 | Hope so. |
twlight
05.12.24 | Based on this, Iām progressive
I have doubts on this test because European and American politics definitely differ |
twlight
05.12.24 | Biden sucks. So does trump. Wow this is going to suck in November. |
budgie
05.12.24 | no humor here, not a big fan of far-right islamic terror states |
twlight
05.12.24 | Biden isnāt left enough. He sucks. So whatās The alternative? |
twlight
05.12.24 | America is fucked. This election in November is a joke |
Deathconscious
05.12.24 | "not a big fan of far-right islamic terror states"
Oh, youre doing the babybrained/racist "theyre all Hamas" cringe. Ok, embarrassing though. Not surprising for a tankie i guess. |
budgie
05.12.24 | a whole lot goin on in that comment |
twlight
05.12.24 | Wow now the leftists who can only vote for Biden. Are voting for genocide.
Surprise democrats, theyāre not on your team! |
Egarran
05.12.24 | Do you have anyone in real life to talk to? |
BaselineOOO
05.12.24 | the globalist big tech neocon extreme left >>> the ultrareligious isolationist far right |
budgie
05.12.24 | the neocon extreme left huh |
BaselineOOO
05.12.24 | At least admit we're fucking evil too? |
BAT
05.12.24 | mehhh i haven't voted for trump past two elections and don't see much reason to change that sentiment, trump would just give israel even more firepower and outright boycotting the election isn't going to do palestine any favors. the two party systems always been bullshit though, mccains the last almost respectable candidate the right had and the current GOP is openly pissing on his grave, i do wish the democratic party didn't just rotate past figures every election. whole system just feels kinda helpless |
Egarran
05.12.24 | *poke poke* Have a revolution already. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | Politics is all just one big ass blast. Who am I supposed to vote for?! The democrat blasting me in the ass or the republican who is gonna blast my ass?? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | Donāt threaten me with a good time eg |
ReefaJones
05.12.24 | *insert Grampa Simpson door gif |
CugnoBrasso
05.12.24 | Speaking of polytikz, who is this eva vlaardingerbroek sweetheart that YouTube keeps shoving down my throat? I've never seen a supporter of the great replacement conspiracy get 55 million views on Twitter. |
Egarran
05.12.24 | Hey Reefa before you leave, at least you can agree to condemn the Israeli invasion of Gaza. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.12.24 | kkkhamas has the hostages though!!1! |
Typhoon24
05.13.24 | how do i change my currently digging |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.13.24 | Just listen to something else and it will update automatically |
Egarran
05.13.24 | We'll tell you when you condemn the genocidal US-backed zionist occupation of Gaza. |
Jasdevi087
05.13.24 | friendly reminder for anyone entertaining not voting for Biden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan
also trump is the only head of state ever (i think) to recognise Israel's claim to the golan heights |
cycosynner
05.13.24 | The hostages Netanyahu has decided to bomb the shit out of, that is. |
BAT
05.13.24 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Heights . but yeah just take a gander at anything trumps stated regarding muslims or islam for the past 25 years. like even a few months ago he was saying 'anyone who votes democrat hates the jews.' |